seeing is this artificial creation right after we saw a real crisis, we saw a real crisis in hurricane sandy and that was a real crisis, an artificial crisis is being instituted to steal from us, the middle class and to steal from people in need. >> it's so refreshing to hear a democratic congressman say that. not only do you have the republicans against you it appears you've the administration against you. they can't wait to do this grand bargain. how do progressive democrats fight back to make sure it doesn't happen? >> first make sure people understand there's a third choice. we can't have the republican party saying we want to strip your medicare and social security like they do in the ryan budget which passed the house, and then the democratic party say have half. that doesn't work. there's got to be a third alternative. somebody has to say this, that's just not the way we're going to do it, strip money from the people in need, throw grandma from the train we're just not going to do it. you're going to see this has become a litmus test on the democratic party in the same way that tax cu